Talk:Cacowards 2016

Fun Neat Stuff Safari
This year saw the addition of a sidebar article mentioning a bunch of miscellaneous releases - mostly gameplay mods - dubbed Fun Stuff Safari. There's at least two releases in here which traditionally fit the honorable mention criteria (The Crystal Maze and Mayhem Mansion), and two fairly large scale projects (Custom Doom and WadSmoosh) which would imo be deserving of their own articles, and then a bunch of minor stuff which really doesn't deserve articles on here (like shaders - at best, articles about such things could be created for the ZDoom wiki, even though that one is mostly for modding guides). So the question here is how to portray this format? It should be noted that only 2016 and 2017 contain this feature, in 2018 it was renamed to Mini Mod Safari and focuses purely on minor gameplay mods and other such miscellaneous projects - 2016 is a bit of an outlier with regards to what it portrays. --Dynamo128 (talk) 13:29, 7 December 2021 (CST)


 * To be more clear and thorough, we're talking about Neat Stuff Safari in 2016 and 2017, and Mini Mod Safari in 2018, 2019 and 2020. In the source articles these are sidebars covering small(er) releases that "don't quite win an award or get honorable mention." So I agree with the initial editors of the wiki articles about those years' Cacowards (Eris Falling and Gez) that they don't need to be listed in the summary of the awards. But sure, some of them are still worth covering here, so if several paragraphs/sections can meaningfully be written about them, feel free. IMHO/KUTGW. --Xymph (talk) 09:40, 9 December 2021 (CST)


 * I think it would be useful to mention this content in some fashion, in response to the conversation on Doomworld. I want to be clear that I don't think it should be reflected on articles of the mods in question; for example, categories are completely overboard for such off-hand mentions. --Quasar (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2021 (CST)


 * "I want to be clear that I don't think it should be reflected on articles of the mods in question" -- as someone who has helped choose some of those mentions, I'd agree 100%. since people have always understood those to be more informal, a lot of those picks are simply "I think this thing is cool, check it out" without worrying if there's a much more systematic process of comparison involved (as would be used for the major awards and even smaller Wiki-featured things like Promising Newcomers). and some sidebar features are only meaningful re the overall "trend" being pointed out. --Rd (talk) 00:11, 21 December 2021 (CST)